Are insurance companies drunk these days?

Looking for insurance for my brother who has his test very soon and I swear to god insurance has turned unreal for 17 yr olds! I knew it had risen a bit for everyone which is fair enough after the shit winter we had and no doubt millions of pounds worth of claims. But seriously... If I was in his shoes I'd be cracking on with two wheels for a bit longer until it starts to drop!

Quotes so far... him as main driver, 52yr old Mum as named, TPFT, 6k miles a year parked on drive at night all with £500 excess!!!

Lupo 1.0 - £3153
1987 Mini City 1000cc - £2687!!!!!
1987 Land Rover Defender 90 - £3749
P reg Ford Ka poverty spec model - £2810
1998 Toyota Starlet SR - £3096
and finally...

1996 ROBIN RELIANT - [size=150:ncohnugw]£2432 <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_surprised.gif" alt="" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o --> [/size:ncohnugw]

And just tried fronting it (yes I know this is illegal) with Mum as main driver, Harry as named and it dropped the Lupo by like £120 or so! Seriously at a loose end with this, he is really excited about his test and getting on the road but at the moment I dont think its gonna be happening any time soon! Any ideas folks?

its an absolute piss take.

with my mum on its cheaper.... um... ye i value my cars at like £200 and say there kept in a garage overnight.. only way mate

Direct line were fairly good for bog standard cars last time i checked.

Also elephant were decent!

If your looking at minis and reliants etc...... check out classic car companies (footman james eg) with limited mileage like 3,000 miles a year. Helps bring it down loads!

for first time quinn direct are usually best

Tryed doing the pass plus?

I used to wokr with a woman who has now become a driving instructor and one of her students (17 or 18 year old male) did the pass plus and got £800 off his insurance... its just 6 extra 1hr lessons after you have passed your test.

Could be worth a try?

i did pass plus, its facking easy as hell lol. i did it ages after i passed aswell, had all my &quot;bad habbits&quot; and i was speeding etc, the instructor didnt really care lol

i did pass plus....costed like £300 and when was gettin insurance for 1st car-tesco was the cheapest...n f*ckers even didnt ask about pass plus lol so pretty much wasted 300 lol

alot of places dont car about pass plus now lol.

tbf i was looking at cars the other day.

me - 20, 3 years no claims, 6000 miles a year, locked garage with my 56 mum on it. fully comp.

£23,000 a year for a evo 7 in standard spec

and then a smart raodster brabus not even a 1 litre and it came to 4 grand